A Coven of Love

So what does one witch say about another and other breeders? And what do they say about the death of another's puppy?

Beth Mirsky
"How are you getting their posts? From what I understand, Lou Ann is a complete bitch and very competitive.."

Jacky Petrie
"Just gave Kelly a heads up about Kyrsten. She always mentions that her first Newf was a half sib to my Grip. Looks like she got her dog from me. Usually if it's on my wall or one of my pictures I just remove. Cunt."
(May 7, 2012 at 3:59pm)

Jacky Petrie
CW thinks she is a good breeder - and so does Kyrsten. And Barb Mackenzie....
July 11, 2012 at 4:12pm · Like
Jacky Petrie They are all very sad excuses
July 11, 2012 at 4:15pm · Like

Jacky Petrie
"Echo Alessandra is a dog with a FB page - her owner is Dani Hazen also with a FB page - they 'adopted' the b/w rescue Hugo from dumbass Teri Ratzlaff."

Jacky Petrie
"Carol Hudson - Newf abuser and child abuser."
July 14, 2012 at 3:17pm

Jacky Petrie
"I'm trying to remember who has me blocked. Locally - Debbie the dingbat, a local Shih Tzu breeder and her sidekick - kennel club shit and then there Droolsalot, Bogart Lee Blues, Donna the donkey, LowAss, Jarry Buchanan and Typhoid Mary. Have I missed anyone???"
(June 19, 2012 at 7:38am)

Jacky Petrie
"Mary is just sick and nasty. But I'll poke her now and then..... I'm just nasty. LOL!!!"
(April 29, 2012 at 2:34pm)

Jacky Petrie
"Who is this Debbie Elgonitis Schwechel and why has she blocked me??? I was looking at some older photos and saw that she had been a friend, made a comment and now I'm blocked. WTF??? Cunt!"
(June 28, 2012 at 6:46am)

Jacky Petrie

"I know what comments were made by CW (gag) and what she did not like was the truth. For some reason I was very blunt with her, and I was blocked but did not get a nastygram. She does not want to hear the truth - that is, that if you cannot afford to breed then you should stop or get a job to support the effort. The thread started by Heidi (double gag) is still up for anyone to read. And of course I have all my PMs to her. I also took Barb Mack on, on Kelly Logan's wall. Barb has more puppies. And I took her on, in that stupid group of Robin bobbin' Gardner - her of the convenient memory loss. She is too stupid to breathe and she is a LIAR. Worse than Mcfool and Mcshyster, but in the same ballpark as KWA."
(May 31, 2012)

Jacky Petrie

"Carole Hudson is obviously soused! (again!!)
What a moron. She just likes to stir up shit. I made a comment - if she comes back I'll have at her again. Twit."
(May 9, 2012 at 2:18pm)

Jacky Petrie

"Another Carol Hudson soused post. I fear for any kid she has and any Newfie she owns."
(May 10, 2012 at 1:14 pm)

Jacky Petrie

"Mary has been tossed out of the coven she says.... some of her comments have gone beyond the pale...."
(May 4, 2012 at 10:20am)

Jacky Petrie
"FUCK FUCK FUCK. FUCKING KYRSTEN AND FUCKING SYLVIA BELCOURT ARE GETTING A PUPPY FROM EUROPE - A BITCH BEING SHIPPED TODAY."
(April 26, 2012 at 8:50am)

Jacky Petrie
"Lisa of Lighthouse Newfs in a wig.... and talking about her sex life. Dumbass."

Jacky Petrie
"Fucking sanctimonious Canadians. And CW - she hasn't left the farm for years to go to a show. Her dogs are P E T S...."
(April 25, 2012 at 5:18pm)

Jacky Petrie
"Have you seen that fuck ugly dog that Carol Hudson has." OMG, it almost looks like her, lol."
(April 24, 2012 at 12:43 p.m.)



Jacky Petrie
"Around the time that I was booted out of the ultra secret group."
(June 19, 2012 at 10:52am)

Jacky Petrie
"Marg hasn't produced anything worth owning in years. She is still trying to produce another Pied Piper . . . . not going to happen."
(April 26, 2012 at 2:40pm)

Jacky Petrie
"Susan Aspeotes posted to Mary Belford Smith
Post from Susan Asshole to Mary on Mary's page........ LOL!!!
They deserve each other. I didn't see the - I actually saw what she posted and thought nasty cunt and told her I would delete the thread which I did - on Newf-L group."
(April 19, 2012 at 4:25am)

Jacky Petrie
"She was accused of beating a dog at a dog show in Ontario and dumped from m'ship with Newf Club and has had disciplinary action from CKC. She is a nasty bitch, IMO and she was told NOT to sell to these people but did so anyway."
(April 18, 2012 at 6:41pm)

Jacky Petrie
"Topmast - not somewhere I would go for a Newf.......her day is done - she needs to retire from breeding."
(July 6, 2012 at 4:41pm)

Jacky Petrie
"DP - Diane Price with the multi coloured hair moussed up to the sky and the pierced nipples, bwahaaaaa."
(July 20, 2012 at 4:33pm)

Jacky Petrie
"Susan Carnes Garrett is a stupid arrogant ass - imparting her vast knowledge acquired from the 'net in the past year.... Far too many just like her....."
(April 6, 2012 at 7:50am)

Jacky Petrie
"Cindy Williams: In honesty Jacky, the browns that I am seeing in this country do NOT fit under the banner of being stunning or typey."
Jacky Petrie: "Where the fuck is she seeing them?? Are they visiting the farm??????????? Nitwit."
(April 26, 2012 at 2:38pm)

Jacky Petrie
"CW is breeding pets as far as I can see."
(December 30, 2011 at 5:46pm)

Jacky Petrie
"Once again, Donna likes to play with people and she has Mary who is a needy cow and Cindy who likes to be 'someone'."

Jacky Petrie
"Mary - What a nasty old cunt she is."

Jacky Petrie
"Over on Nfld Dog owners forum Cindy W is the star.....she is waxing eloquent on rescue and type and all sorts of things - supported by Kristin Sharp ..... oh my. LOL!!!"
(April 1, 2012 at 1:14pm)

Jacky Petrie
"I have to step away because Kristin and Cindy are discussing the breed standard. OMG. She is judging Sweeps at the Can national this year....y'all should turn up. Bwahahahahahaha."
(April 1, 2012 at 3:16pm)

Jacky Petrie
"The witches (CW & LAL) said you were my attack dog.......hehehehehehehe."
(November 18, 2011 at 11:29am)

Jacky Petrie

"Making myself popular again - this time that fucking asshole Ken Patrick. On Newfs on Net. And Carole Hudson took on Tami Stout of Canine Acres yesterday - and now on her page Barbara McKenzie is to the defence and Ken Patrick is in his role as asshole. I think he is just a little shit disturber - in a trollish sort of way. . . Another moron is Tricia Lawless - would not know a Newf from a Shitzoo."
(February 3, 2012 at 5:38pm)

Jacky Petrie
"Would someone please shoot that asshole Ken Patrick??"
(February 13, 2012 at 7:23am)

Jacky Petrie
"Peter Maniac I call him - go to his website - Hannibal Newfs - he moves his puppies OUTSIDE at 3 weeks....."
(December 6, 2011 at 7:40am)

Cindy Williams
"And just as a side note...Carole Hudson..last nites monster..is one of Steves new greatest fans..I checked out his page by nefarious means and discovered that she is now one of his groupies..so everyone be prepared for that. And..Brandy Deines is on there now too...clicking like on his pictures."
Kathy Shaffer-Guerrero
"Now I have to be careful with what I say on there if Brandy Deines is on there."
Lou Ann Lenner
"Are you stuttering? Are you afraid of that piece of shit?...:)"
Rachel Teiman
"Is pond scum at the top or the bottom of the pond? I was imagining that they were grabbing for support from the bottom cause that is the only place they can get it. Again, I'm sick - it may only make sense in my mind."
Cindy Williams
"lol..well it just struck me as an odd alliance, you know? That he would beat on Julie constantly...and buddy up with Brandy?"
Cindy Williams
"Or is he going to do the same thing to Brandy as he did to Dollyboons? And that's hang onto her until he realizes he can't use her for anything?"
Lou Ann Lenner
"I bet Steve would REALLY like her, if I sent him the naked pictures."
Lou Ann Lenner
"I'll have to ask him..."
Lou Ann Lenner
"But then Cara would probably hunt me down...LOL."
Donna Strickland Koga
"And he'd tell everyone that you sent them........LOL."
Lou Ann Lenner
"I did send them...Brandy thinks she's SO hot and likes show of her body and new boob job..."
Lou Ann Lenner
"I went to Steve's wall and can't find Brandy...maybe she has me blocked?"
Lou Ann Lenner
"maybe I should just put them on FB for EVERYONE to see...LOL."

Jacky Petrie
"OMFG...........I have been added to a group called Malone's Animal Network and as you might guess it's set up by Robin Gardner. And is ALL animals even parrots. OMG. I have been dumped in the land of the crazies. And..........fucking Kyrsten is on it. "
(February 12, 2012 at 3:58pm)

Jacky Petrie
"Pass these names on to Euro breeder friends, please. Kyrsten Wright Adams [has already had one deal fall thru probably with Black Brothers??] and Kathy Hyland/Kat Hyl or Mark Hyland in Rhode Island. Kat will try to buy for KWA. KWA has puppies now - 2w/b and 3black. Tell them she will try again via Kat Hyl/Kathy and Mark Hyland in RI. And to pass the word. And Dolly Boon's family - Davis are all FB friends with KWA so I guess Royal Virgin is next."
(April 3, 2012 at 9:44am )

Jacky Petrie
"I think LAL prides herself on being a bitch. MHZ is not a breeder by any stretch of the imagination."
(October 22, 2011 at 4:32pm)

Jacky Petrie
"So I just asked a friend from *the* group if has disappeared for her, and she said no - it was there, but only 47 members - there were 52 on Tuesday morning. I wonder how much editing has been done??? I feel like it's grade school all over again - secret friends groups and decoder rings. Witches"
(October 4, 2011 at 9:25pm)

Jacky Petrie
"Either of know about this???? Anew group - kinder gentler..... I had sent a request and then cancelled it when I learned Kat Hyl was there plus Donna Koga. Donna K, Kat Hyl, Lois, Lisa Martens and other odd characters.. But the spelling is one that Robin Gardiner uses all the time..."
(October 21, 2011 at 6:23am)

Jacky Petrie
"Just shared a link - two Newfs from KWA are in the classifieds. One is 10 yr old female and a 6 year old male - both intact. KWA will be a tad pissed when she sees that. Fuck her."
(October 6, 2011 at 7:01pm)



Jacky Petrie
"Mary is a very sad case, IMO. She's like a dog that needs attention so badly that it will do anything for the attention - even pee on the floor because someone pays attention. They also do those submissive pees when there is excessive attention - peeing and wagging their tails. And poor Mary is the one who does not make the team, and goes home and whines. I hope her meds help her but first she has to learn to never let the fuckers see how much you are down, and especially how much their actions upset you. IMO."
(February 9, 2012 at 11:31am)

Jacky Petrie
"Stacy and Beth Eady - two little know-nothing fluffies - why do I bother to respond to their stupid questions."
(March 26, 2012 at 8:20am)

Jacky Petrie
"I was so tempted to block those fluffies this morning, but in some ways I enjoy seeing just how stupid they are in public. I am reminded of an old Peanuts poster that said If you can't be right, be wrong at the top of your voice. DKS, Beth ... to many to count."
(March 27, 2012 at 9:16am)

Jacky Petrie
"Those two little know-nothing fluffies - why do I bother to respond to their stupid questions."
(March 26, 2012 at 8:20am)

Jacky Petrie
"So, over on NonN - what happened with the fluffy photo contest??? LameAss Michelle Phillips was supposed to have made her choice by now - closed on Thursday..... Ugly fucking dogs."
(February 12, 2012 at 6:45am)

Jacky Petrie
"Oh, and I have had a friend request from Heidi Peterson - it's her second chance. I added her. I do not know why she de-friended me the last time. Fucking bitch. I will be doing some editing of my friend's list...."
(June 1, 2012 at 4:41am)

Jacky Petrie
"Donna likes to play with people and she has Mary who is a needy cow and Cindy who likes to be 'someone'."
(October 6, 2011)

Jacky Petrie
CW and MHZ (and LA) are going to try to take over the Newfie groups on FB to make themselves appear 'special", bwahaaaaaaaa."
(November 29, 2012)

Jacky Petrie
"I know breeders who have put down litters of IS pups - but I'm not naming any names."
(August 9, 2012 at 6:26pm)

Jacky Petrie
"Over on Nfld Dog owners forum Cindy W is the *star*.....she is waxing eloquent on rescue and type and all sorts of things - supported by Kristin Sharp ..... oh my. LOL!!!
(April 1, 2012 at 1:14pm)

Jacky Petrie
"It may be my suspicious mind but both Ken Patrick and Byron Lepposky [sp?] seem to making Mary and Cindy posts on NNMG.....is it a coincidence that BL has a dog from CW and both are friends with her?? Their questions look like the kind of posts that MYB was putting up until the cat was let out of the bag....or the witches had their brooms grounded.....
I think it is bait - the e-mail thing. They are all so quiet on their own pages, and also on NN forum that they must be chatting/hatching on the secret group.....They are defensive because they were outed - and as I said my friend told me that her opinion of CW was very much changed by the secret group - she found the posts most disturbing. It was not like that when we were there - it was mostly about NN and the monitoring by Jeannie and so on. As far as I can recall I said nothing on the secret list that I would not have posted on the NNMG. MYB - if you read back thru her blog really has a lot of issues. Including losing her job because she didn't have any teeth..... She has teeth now - but what a thing to post about and how destroying that is - makes me wonder how many of these people actually have a life off line..... Y'know your posting of the stuff from the secret group probably did more damage than we realize - while I cannot see what DSK and Orion post, CW and MYB have been very quiet - even on NN the forum and nothing on Newf-L. I know CW has a group on her for Pipeline Newfs so some traffic will be there but she posted A LOT She still has stuff on her page - Xmas tree and stuff, but the chat is from the same old crowd. The faithful Robin Gardner, and her puppy owners and MYB. Not much from DSK and Orion is very quiet in public..... And there are more sheep than shepherds.... You know that many people cannot deal with forthright comments and so they turn away. That's why many dog people can't handle dog shows - they never 'get it' that a judge offers up an opinion - and if you show than it should be a VERY rare occasion that the judge knows more about how your dog compares to the standard than you do. Cindy knows a bunch of vet stuff and is free in sharing, which is a good thing, BUT she is in the Topmast camp and that IMO is a closed mindset...... The other thing that CW does very well is play the nice breeder - she is approachable - she puts up lots of pix of her puppies in the house but it makes her appear very ordinary and very like a pet person. She no longer shows so that is not a divider. She's good at what she does - keeping people in her fold by playing nice except when it is against someone like you who is outspoken who does fly off the handle, who can be formidable - she gathers her troops who post her way - and people like MYB desparately want to be part of the clique IMO she is alone but she is not a loner and comfortable with it. Moi - I have the advantage of being an only child. "
(November 20, 2011 at 7:47pm)

Jacky Petrie
"Anita Reinisch has commented on the thread on Silvia's page but it is in hungarian??? She's a nobody and came over here as a kennel maid."
(March 19, 2012 at 2:19pm)

Jacky Petrie
"Who was the judge who picked the Thickish bitch.??? So ugly. Looks like she had the same surgery as her owner, bwahaaaaaaaaaaa."
(November 6, 2011 at 6:52pm)

Jacky Petrie
"MLZ is just on a hunt over Jack because she is such a cunt."
(January 12, 2013 at 5:56pm)

Jacky Petrie
"Mary - sad old toothless cow."
(January 21, 2012 at 3:46pm)

Jacky Petrie
"Not a chance I would ever buy a puppy from CW. No heart checks and lots of soft tissue issues in her lines. As I said, she produces P E T S at best."
(April 4, 2012 at 3:39 pm)

Jacky Petrie
'CW uses dumbasses like Daniel McCormick to do her work. He's a nothing but he listens to her."
(April 2, 2012 at 4:46 pm)

Jacky Petrie
"MLZ is not a "breeder" in any sense of the word. Have you seen her dogs??? OMG!!!"
(March 24, 2012 at 5:54 pm)

Jacky Petrie
"Marylou Hoffman Zimmerman doesn't breed anything other than ugly pet quality."
(March 28, 2012 at 2:23 pm)

Jacky Petrie
"Milena Papale Polloni? She's had more plastic surgery than bubble wrap, bwhahaaaaaaa."
(February 12, 2012 at 11:23 am)

Jacky Petrie
"I heard Oreste Polloni was arrested coming back into Italy after Crufts. Maybe he should change his name to "Arreste", lol."
(August 29, 2012 at 12:34 pm)

Jacky Petrie
"Osca Newfashion? Ugly dog, horrible kennel."
(September 17, 2012 at 9:56 pm)




Next we have Cindy Williams (Pipeline Newfoundlands) prodding someone on to make light of the deaths of Jet and Primo:

Cindy L. Williams
"Yah...well...I'd not pay a lot of attention to Jacky...OR Stefano for that matter. But ya..don't worry about that. Jacky has this concept in her head that people are picking on Steve..gag...he is an ass..always has been, and always will be."

3:44pm
Cindy L. Williams
"And the breeder he was trying to smear and accusing of feeding you that night and giving you the information? That was me...lol..and I wasn't even talking to you. I am CW."

What did you expect? People like Cindy Williams making light of the death of a puppy.




More to come!!!

Newfoundlands: How To Avoid Puppy Mills

From the Newfoundland Club of America:

Finding and Evaluating a Breeder


"Finding the right breeder can be the most important step you take in selecting your Newfoundland puppy. For this reason, the NCA offers the following suggestions:

* Talk and visit with many breeders
* Be prepared to wait for a puppy
* Expect a written contract and a health guarantee
* Request references
* Documents that should come with your puppy

Talk to, and visit with as many breeders as possible, even if it means a long drive. This will enable you to meet the breeder and see the conditions in his kennel. Although elaborate equipment is not a necessity, the facilities can and should be clean. To be healthy, the puppies should be kept clean at all times with a warm dry pen, clean papers on the floor, and a clean bedding area. Ask to see the mother and the father of the puppies. Keep in mind that many times the father will not be on the premises, but the breeder should offer information about him. Also, the mother might not look her very best; taking care of pups is hard work.
It is not unusual to have to wait six months for your Newf puppy from a breeder. Quality is worth waiting for. A Newfoundland puppy should never go to a new home before the age of 8 weeks. Usually, by 8-12 weeks, a puppy has been checked for possible hereditary defects, received initial vaccinations and wormings, and is ready for his new family. Reputable breeders have written sales contracts and health guarantees. As with any contract or agreement, these should be read carefully and discussed in detail with the breeder before signing. Most breeders will offer a contract or agreement concerning puppies crippled with hip dysplasia or found to have a heart defect. Such contracts or agreements may also cover neutering, or the care
required to be provided by the buyer. Newfoundlands are subject to heart defects, hereditary in
nature, and should be examined by a veterinarian for such before being placed in a new home. No
bloodline is absolutely free of all hereditary problems, but a breeder should be ready to openly discuss any dogs in his kennel and their pedigrees as they are affected, for example by hip dysplasia and heart defects. A good breeder will be happy to supply you with references of satisfied customers. In return, the breeder may ask you for references such as your veterinarian. He will also question you about your lifestyle, why you want a Newf, and your own facilities for a Newfoundland. He would be rightfully concerned if you do not have a securely fenced yard or kennel run with appropriate shelter.

A Newf puppy should come with the following information:

• an AKC Registration application, properly completed and signed
• a pedigree of 3 or more generations
• written instructions on the feeding and care of the puppy
• an immunization record and schedule including date and type of serum, and dates future
inoculations are due
• a worming record and schedule
• a written sales contract and guarantee stipulating all terms and conditions of the sale
including when and what health defects the puppy has been examined and is guaranteed for.
Finding the right puppy and breeder for you, is often time consuming and difficult. Once
found, you will have friends for life! Take your time; a few months spent in your search will
be well worth it.

Checklists

Here are some questions you should ask and every responsible breeder will gladly answer:
May I see the puppies and their mother?
You should always be able to see the mother, and you should be able to observe the puppies.
Newfoundland puppies are curious and friendly, they should be coming to you.
May I see the AKC registration for the father and mother?
Have the mother, father and puppies been cleared by a cardiologist?
Has the mother or father produced "heart puppies" before?
Unfortunately heart problems exist in every Newfoundland line all over the world.
Have the mother and father been cleared by the Genetic Disease Control (GDC) for hips and
elbows, or have the mother and father been rated by the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals
(OFA) and what was the score (excellent, good, fair or not cleared)? GDC and OFA check for orthopedic problems.
Have the parents been screened for cystinuria and have they been cleared? If both parents have been cleared your puppy will not be affected.
Do the mother or father have any working titles?
Can I talk to your vet?
Are you a member in good standing of the Newfoundland Club of America? - Members must
sign and abide by an ethic guideline.
What local dog organizations are you a member of? - Regional Newfoundland clubs, local All
Breed Clubs, tracking, agility, obedience
Will you take the dog back if circumstances prevent me from taking care of it?

Questions a good breeder may ask you:

Where do you intend to keep the puppy?
How much time will the puppy stay home alone?
Can I talk to your vet?
Have you owned a giant breed dog before?
Are you aware of the problems the breed has?
Are you aware of the costs involved if your dog should develop medical problems?

Finally, before you take your puppy home, make sure:

• All parties have signed a written contract
• The breeder has supplied an individual AKC registration application for the puppy.
Without it you will NOT be able to register your puppy in the U.S.
• You have care and feeding instructions.

Breeder Red Flags

When visiting a breeder, or talking with one before a visit, there are a number of things that should alert you of possible trouble. Read this list carefully beforehand and take notes during any phone conversation or face-to-face meeting.
Breeder using other registries besides AKC (usually stating they are “just as good as...”)
No questions asked about anything except payment methods.
Breeder “not believing in that silly health testing.”
Bitches being very young or very old and pregnant.
No concern about what you will provide the puppy with in terms of daily care, exercise,
paddock, crate, training experience.
Breeder who doesn’t believe in spay/neuter agreements-- “what you do with your puppy is
your business.”
Huge numbers of dogs.
Numerous breeds that the breeder deals with.
Refusal to let you visit the facilities housing all the dogs.
Refusal to let you meet the dam and/or sire.
[NEVER TRUST A BREEDER WHO WILL NOT HAVE HEARTS CHECKED BY ECHO-DOPPLER BECAUSE "IT IS TOO FAR TO TRAVEL TO THE CARDIOLOGIST."]

What you can do if you have doubts:

Contact your local S.P.C.A. for complaints
Contact local dog clubs and breed clubs for references
Ask breeder for references
Has breeder ever been sued? Suspended?
Contact AKC for complaints."

A Lovely Day

Green Friday

The Newfoundland Club of America and the Art of Sportsmanship

Here is a tale (posted on Facebook) that defies even the ever self-contradicting Newfoundland Club of America:

"I had a disappointing experience at the Ballston Spa dog show last Fri. It started out on a good note when [my dog] won Winner's Dog. I was approached afterwards by one of the other entrants (that I know) and was told it was too bad my dog won and that her dog should have won since he only needed a major to finish. I said well my boy only needs majors to finish too! She then went to the AKC rep and complained about the bad judge and the bad choices he made. It continued on later with her telling everyone there why my boy should not have won. She even posted on FB later about the bad judge, and the "questionable decisions in newf males" he made and the AKC rep being called. But she failed to mention that she was the one that called the rep (verified) because she lost and was not really concerned about the judge being physically ill. What ever happened to good sportsmanship??? What kind of example is this for new show people that were there? We all have shows where we may not agree with the judge’s placement decisions, but we move on to the next show and hope the next judge likes our dog. Very disappointing, especially coming from an NCA breeder/board member. I am not sure what she was trying to accomplish with this behavior. The judge was not going to change his book to make her dog the winner. His other choices for WB and BOB were good. All she accomplished was a display of poor behavior on her part and loss of respect by those that know her. This is supposed to be fun and the bottom line is that it is just a dog show. To me friendships last a lot longer and are more important than the results of one dog show. She did win on Sat and finished her dog, and I congratulated her."

NCA declares as one of its objectives: "to do all in its power to protect and advance the interests of the breed and to encourage sportsmanlike conduct at dog shows, obedience trials, and other events under the rules of the American Kennel Club." So yet again, who is protecting the Newfoundland from the NCA?

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